Understanding the problem is key to knowing what to do.

Productivity Is Not

being busy, completing straightforward tasks

Productivity Is

navigating the unknown, advancing the company into new territory, new ideas, new innovations…that add value and produce results

Two New Skills Are Required of
21st Century Leaders

The name of the game going forward is operating in a world of uncertainty.   There are fewer knowns, unclear boundaries and unstable playing fields.   It is like operating in the dark. 

The first and most important new skill required is decision-making in this world of uncertainty.  Decision-making entails two things – risk taking and innovation.   You’ll never be able to reduce risk to zero, but making intelligent judgements to reduce risk, even in the face of uncertainty, is a teachable skill.  The same is true of innovation – creating something that did not exist before. 

But you can’t go it alone.   It is human nature to freeze when faced with fear or uncertainty.   We are hard-wired for that.   Teaming can help overcome that.  Teaming requires trust, and good decision-making requires truth.  To effectively team and collaborate, the second 21st Century skill we must master is to train to unlearn our own immune system defensive response to protect, which results in ego, silence, conflict avoidance, fragility and defensiveness.  

When teamed with others you know and trust, able to rely upon each other to navigate uncertainty and give you truth about your blind spots, operating in the dark is no longer such a daunting task. 

Upgrading leaders
from these organizations

Who is Next Jump?

Next Jump is a technology company, started in 1994 as a coupon business and developed into a successful e-commerce business on a platform called Perks at Work.

But the world started changing and a bigger issue emerged around the role of leadership in organizations. 

Therefore, we built a second business to help transform employees into leaders and leaders into coaches.  It started as a social movement, but the problem grew so big, it became a business.

NextJump is one of two companies globally recognized by Harvard as a “DDO,” an organization which puts learning at the heart of their corporate culture and strategy.

What Does Next Jump Do?


Tailored programs to build decision making skills for individuals and teams.


Providing 25+ years of data measuring progress towards decision readiness.

Human Performance Box Seat Series

Invitation only experiences curated by world class experts.

Areas of Expertise



Young Leaders


Food + Health




Do the little things that allow others to do the great things that they are meant to do.

Charlie Kim

Founder & Co-CEO

Charlie Kim is the Founder and Co-Chief Executive Officer of Next Jump. Charlie founded Next Jump in 1994 in his college dorm room. Grew the business to 150 employees in the first dot-com boom, soon to be followed by the dot-com bust, bringing the Company down to 4 employees before building back up to 200 NxJumpers. Charlie is rated as a top mentor and coach in several industries including: U.S. military, professional sports, education, nonprofits, startups and F1000 executives. Next Jump has been recognized by McKinsey as well as Harvard & Cornell for its culture of high performance and coaching techniques for both individuals and team leaders.

Meghan Messenger


Meghan Messenger serves as Co-Founder & Co-CEO at Next Jump, Inc. (NxJ). Meghan started as a local sales intern for Next Jump in 1998 and helped grow the business though the first dot-com bubble to over 150 employees. A few years later, Next Jump survived the dot-com bust however shrunk down to just 4 employees in January of 2002. Meghan was part of the 4-person surviving team, becoming one of the founders of the restructured Next Jump. She also helped build Next Jump’s senior management team, as well as recruit and train some of the best engineers in the country, building the Company back up to 200 employees. She resides in New York City with her husband Mark and her two sons Matthew and Brendan.

Robert Burke

Senior Partner

Robert (Bob) Burke is a Senior Partner. He brings to Next Jump his perspective of having led extremely large enterprises as well as having led small, elite high performing teams, and the experience of moving the Navy’s large personnel system and processes into the 21st century. Bob is a globally respected and multifaceted leader with a proven record of building coalitions, inspiring change, and delivering results.

Bob recently retired as a four-star Navy admiral, where he culminated 40 years of service wearing three simultaneous mantles as Commander of U.S. Naval Forces Europe, Commander of U.S. Naval Forces Africa, and Commander of Allied Joint Force Command Naples, a NATO combined-service command. He has held distinguished posts as the Vice Chief of Naval Operations and as the Chief of Naval Personnel. Robert was a career submarine officer, with assignments in both nuclear-powered attack and ballistic missile submarines.

He has received many awards and honors throughout his career, such as his 2020 Honorary Officer of the Order of Australia for service of the high degree to humanity at large. While in command of the USS HAMPTON (SSN 767), Bob had the unique distinction of being recognized with both the Jack Darby Award for Leadership and the Vice Admiral James Bond Stockdale Award for Inspirational Leadership.

Bob is married to Dr. Barbara Burke, a 30-year career Army intelligence officer, who now serves as Academic Dean for Henley Putnam School of Strategic Studies.

Macky Bergman

Senior External Partner

Coach Macky Bergman is the founder and program Director of Steady Buckets. He brings over 15-years of youth coaching experience to Steady Buckets. Coach Macky has trained boys and girls of all ages, top high school prosects, and NCAA student-athletes, as well as Euro-League and NBA professionals. He played four years of varsity basketball at The University of Rochester where he received three all-conferance academic team honors. In 2010 he started Steady Buckets in order to bring quality skill development training to NYC youth basketball players. Under his leadership, Steady Buckets has thrived and now serves over 2,500 youth per year, providing free skill development workouts, instructional leagues, leadership training and workouts designed specifically for girls only and players on the autism spectrum. In 2018 he was honored by NY1 as New Yorker of the Week and by the Brooklyn Nets as Jr. Nets Coach of the Year. In 2021 he was named a Next Jump Social Capitalist, External Partner and Master Coach.

Thomas Fuller

Chief of Engineering

Thomas Fuller is the Chief of Engineering at Next Jump, Inc. Tom joined Next Jump in 1999 as a coder and currently serves as Co-head of our HR Technology and Education business – with the mission to enable leaders to ENGINEER CULTURES OF HIGH PERFORMANCE. Tom’s team has built a suite of applications to help organizations improve how they advance their company culture (feedback, recognition, hiring & evaluations) by combining technology with performance psychology.

Tom has played a leadership role, with our Co-CEO’s, in sculpting Next Jump’s leadership and human capital initiatives. This has led to several key recognitions including Johns Hopkins selecting Next Jump as 1 of 3 healthiest workplaces. Harvard and HBR published An Everyone Culture, recognizing Next Jump as 1 of 3 best run companies worldwide. Additionally, dozens of books reference the innovations of Next Jump and its culture including Simon Sinek, Jim Loehr, and Gabe Zichermann.

Daniel Chavez-Bello

Senior Partner

Dani Chavez-Bello “Chef Dani”, Senior Partner, chef and food expert joined Next Jump after almost a year of pro bono collaboration. His passion is divided between food and health. Dani has over 30 years of experience in the food industry and restaurant business around the world. He is focused on R&D using his expertise in fine dining and food science to build functional and healthy food with delightful taste that optimizes human performance. He is focused on food as medicine.

Dani is a Michelin starred chef and obsessed traveler. He has worked on 4 continents. Based initially in Europe, he started his career in Barcelona at Hofmann Culinary Institute (Escuela de cocina Hofmann) and worked at El Bulli (12 years best restaurant in the world). He was awarded Chef of the Year in Hamburg Germany. Previously, he was Chef consultant at Tokyo Prince Hotels, Former Executive R&D Chef at Bouley restaurants in NYC, Chef consultant at Wegmans, and Chief Culinary Officer at Epicured.

Chef Dani has two daughters, Manuela and Camila. Manuela loves sports and fashion. Camila plays the piano and likes history and literature. Chef Dani is a runner and loves surfing.